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I hope you folks don't mind a guy from the peanut gallery poking his nose in here, but the more I lurk and read in the knapping fora here, the more it baffles me that what seems (intuitively) to have...

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Uniface, I thoroughly believe in it. Water has a lot to do with flakability especially with material like quartzite, argillite, rhyolite materials. Jack cresson has also studied this on thee types of...

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Originally Allegheny & Westmoreland Counties. Then Montour for a while ; now Clearfield. Helderberg was everywhere in Montour Co., but so full of intersecting seams it was almost unworkable, and...

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caveman2533 wrote: Uniface,I thoroughly believe in it. Water has a lot to do with flakability especially with material like quartzite, argillite, rhyolite materials. Jack cresson has also studied this...

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Woody, I would agree you are lucky. I can send you a box of Argillite spalls if you really want a challenge. I would also agree that on high grade materials water on the surface or even a soaking will...

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Look in the Scientific American 1987 for an article entitled The Fracturing of Glass by Terry Michalske and Bruce Bunker. The article explains how water molecules act as chemical wedges to promote...

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Caveman2533 wrote:I would also agree that on high grade materials water on the surface or even a soaking will not be needed at all. That would be natural assumption -- one that I made myself (above)....

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I hope this isn't a really stupid thought but would there be any benefit / gain from doing indirect percussion under water? Hell maybe I just need more coffee....

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I keep most all of my stone in water. It can have a profound effect on even fine grained stones. Most of the western chalcedonies are much improved, showing far less white flecks in the flake scares...

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It's certainly gratifying to hear that I'm not crazy after all !

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I thought I had seen an improvewment in some of my stone if it was soaked for a few days, so I asked Richard Dobe, a top knotch knapper at the Bandera Knappin what he thought of the idea. Without...

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I have seen good hornstone dry out and turn lighter in color in a matter of hours.

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I definately agree that water helps some cherts.  Blue/gray flint hills chert from east central Kansas never works better than the moment you get it out of the ground.  Let it dry out and it is harder...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPGNFAj468

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A few more from the knapping forum to keep scattered observations together : I'm not saying water treated flint works as well as heat treated flint but it does work better than raw, dried out flint....

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Steve, I did not get it on film, but>> You got to lick it before you stick it<GGGRRRNNN>> Maybe I will get you to do a replay this year for you tube Steve did a demo for me at Oregon...

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Water definitely helps rock.  I have a video of Jim Redfearne saying this as he worked a rock he just picked up out of a creek (so it had been there for centuries I suppose).  I've also tried it...

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Well, I often keep unheated bifaces of Edwards Plateau in my aquarium. The fish don't seem to mind at all. It seems to not only change the color, prolly due to the saturated water content, but it also...

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